[rdfweb-dev] foaf:depicts and parts of an image
danbri at w3.org
Fri Oct 10 15:00:48 UTC 2003
* Masahide Kanzaki <post at kanzaki.com> [2003-10-10 22:21+0900]
> Hi Libby, thanks for prompt suggestion.
> >And we decided to add regionDepicts to the foaf vocabulary. I can't
> >actually see it in the specification though:
> Hmmm... regionDepicts doesn't seem, eh, very good for me ...
OK, I'll hold off from adding it (tracking these discussions in
Bugzilla, or perhaps the Wiki, seems good though).>
> If foaf:regionDepicts is a subproperty of foaf:depicts, then
> X foaf:regionDepicts Y. => X foaf:depicts Y.
I wasn't anticipating that., since we've never claimed (yet) that a
region of an Image is an Image.
> by definition of subproperty. This means we can use foaf:depicts for
> region, and does not solve the current question.
> If it's not a subproperty of foaf:depicts, we have two unrelated (at least
> for machine) terms, whose meanings are basically the same or closely
> related (that's why those names share English verb 'depicts'). I'm afraid
> this sort of new term might hurt the generality and usability of FOAF
I'd support a separate vocabulary for image content description, I'm
sure there will be other things beyond regions that will prove
interesting to describe.
> A reckless question: should foaf:Image be a subclass of foaf:Document ? (as
> I asked in IRC several months ago.) I think a region (part) of an image
I think it should be. We currently say it is subclassof
wordnet:Document, which suggests this is just an editorial oversight.
> could be a foaf:Image, and if so, foaf:depicts solves those problems.
That seems more controversial.
In practice, I suspect many people have code and tools which assume that
the kinds of images we reference with depicts/depiction are bitmaps
addressable on the Web. I can imagine this practice extending to SVG
as browser support for SVG grows, since a entire SVG image is a
self-standing thing. I'm not sure the concept extends naturally to
cover fragments of images, since the likely processing model for
dealing with values of this property will vary.
> >I actually think depicts would be fine with a bit of tweaking.
> I agree. Would you tell how you think to tweak this ? It would have a
> better solution.
Yup, I'd be happy to see a worked through proposal from someone.
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