[rdfweb-dev] responding to a new wave of anti-RDF sentiment

Julian Bond julian_bond at voidstar.com
Tue Jul 19 07:48:51 UTC 2005

Jo Walsh <jo at frot.org> Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:56:13
>"There are no application toolkits or simple frameworks accessible in
>a low-footprint install to php-type developers"

So is this untrue?

Getting on for 2 years ago, I made exactly the same comment. AFAIK, 
nothing has changed. RAP is more stable now within it's limits. There's 
no work being done on the port into PEAR. There's no RDF parser built 
into PHP Core. Redland has no windows PHP binaries.

>----- Forwarded message -----
>To: "Joshua Tauberer / GovTrack.us" <tauberer at govtrack.us>
>Subject: Re: [dev] Open Databases & the Semantic Web
>Cc: Jo Walsh <jo at frot.org>, dev at lists.advocacydev.org
>Last thursday night I attended David Winer's road show at the Berkman
>Center where he evangelized OPML (and his new OPML editor) as another
>simple XML format that is going to be everywhere soon.  OPML is a
>simple XML format for creating trees of hierarchical information. At
>its core, legislative data is hierarchical information,

"Outliners and hierarchies considered harmful"! To my eyes, the world is 
mesh like, not tree like. No matter what domain you look at, there are 
enough cross links to screw up the simple tree view. Which is one of the 
reasons we ended up with hyperlinking and the web. But over and over 
again we get these attempts to impose a tree structure on the world in 
order to make sense of it. For me this is why RDF holds out more long 
term promise than simple XML. I'm just sad that RDF seems to have this 
layer of obscure academic language and words laid over it. And that from 
where I'm standing it still looks like write only data.

Hmmm. That should wind everybody up ;-)

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