[rdfweb-dev] responding to a new wave of anti-RDF sentiment

Dave Beckett dave.beckett at bristol.ac.uk
Tue Jul 19 12:55:13 UTC 2005


On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 10:49 +0100, Julian Bond wrote:
> Jo Walsh <jo at frot.org> Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:18:07
> >On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 08:48:51AM +0100, Julian Bond wrote:
> >> >"There are no application toolkits or simple frameworks accessible in
> >> >a low-footprint install to php-type developers"
> >>
> >> So is this untrue?
> >
> >i'm not saying it's untrue, but it's something that can be easily
> >fixed.
> 
> Still waiting.

Still waiting for your patches.

> >redland has all these interfaces,
> 
> It's not a low footprint install and there are no windows binaries for 
> the PHP binding.

Whatever low footprint install means, you seem to be asking for the
unreasonable.  Until RDF support ships with a standard PHP install and
you invoke it with a 1-line call, looks like you will not be satisfied.

Have you been working with the PHP Core developers over the years you
have been waiting to get this to happen?  Do tell.  Open source means
participating not just saying "wouldn't it be nice" and then complaining
when nothing happens.

> >i'm not proposing this as the right answer / level of detail, and more
> >app components like scutters, aggregators, simple reasoners would be
> >useful, but just to provide simple interfaces to produce and consume
> >data in RDFwould be as useful as a fuller-on application 'framework'

Another approach is to provide RDF web services (small w, small s) that
allow you to manipulate rdf data with little or no software.  Things
like http://librdf.org/query or proper SPARQL protocol implementations.
Those are near to 0-bytes footprint if that's low enough for you.

Dave






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