[foaf-dev] alternate names for people

Mischa Tuffield mmt04r at ecs.soton.ac.uk
Wed Jun 2 13:07:30 CEST 2010


... sorry, one more point to add, comment inline :

On 2 Jun 2010, at 11:57, Mischa Tuffield wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2010, at 11:49, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mischa 
>> 
>> if you sameAs two foaf people you have only one resource and any property that applies to one applies to the other as well. So your suggestion results in one foaf:person with two names, without any distinction between primary and alt. 
>> 
> Sure, if you have OWL reasoning built into your application... I see no need for reasoning when doing FOAF stuff (but that is my POV), and plus you want to be able to work with constantly changing/updating data, and reasoning would have to work hard too manage that.
> 
> But yeah, if you give them two URIs you should write a sparql query which would either return the two "names" (i.e. a smushed persona), or you could write one which returned two URIs each of which have their own foaf:name's. 
> 
> Is looking forward to the day that OWL reasoners start becoming useful in the real world... /me hides 

I find that I can do the owl type reasoning built into the FOAF ontology in real time via sparql. 

Mischa

> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Mischa
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> reto 
>> 
>> ----- Original message ----- 
>> > Hello, 
>> > 
>> > Why not create two foaf:People, with different foaf:names. You could 
>> > then decide to sameAs them if you like, or give them a shared inverse 
>> > functional property (IFP). Not sure that what IFPs you could use for 
>> > MarkTwain though, off the top of my head, you could have 
>> > foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf <http://dbpedia/resource/Twain'sBiography> (I just 
>> > made up that URI sorry, but something along those lines must exist - 
>> > albeit a URI of a book on amazon). 
>> > 
>> > I don't see it being any different from having multiple personas across 
>> > different social networking sites, i.e. on linkedIn (my business 
>> > persona), and facebook (my social persona) are totally different aspects 
>> > of my online identity. Saying that I do share a homepage IFP on the two 
>> > sites, but only my friends can see my IFP in facebook. 
>> > 
>> > Mmm, not sure if I am being helpful, or simply proposing a convoluted 
>> > solution to your problem. 
>> > 
>> > Mischa 
>> > On 2 Jun 2010, at 03:11, Ed Summers wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > Whoops. I wrote the Turtle right but the English wrong. I meant to 
>> > > write: 
>> > > 
>> > > Consider Mark Twain, the author of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, 
>> > > whose name in "real life" was Samuel Clemens. Is it reasonable to riff 
>> > > on the preferred label pattern in Leigh and Ian's Linked Data Patterns 
>> > > [2] and use skos:altLabel here? 
>> > > 
>> > > <http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2119850A/>; a foaf:Person ; 
>> > > foaf:name "Samuel Clemens" ; 
>> > > skos:altLabel "Mark Twain" . 
>> > > 
>> > > //Ed 
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