[foaf-protocols] Some basic questions prior to development ?

Melvin Carvalho melvincarvalho at gmail.com
Mon May 17 20:47:33 CEST 2010


2010/5/17 Seth Russell <russell.seth at gmail.com>

> I did manage to implement your Identity Provider pretty easily.  You can
> start my simple application at:
>
>       http://www.speaktomecatalog.com/login.php
>
> Do, please try it out and give me feedback.   It will email me your spin
> but since my payoff is tied to the email i would have dispatched to you, and
> your service does not give me your email address, I can't yet put the payoff
> coupon in your shopping cart yet.   Which brings me back to basic questions:
>
>    - How can a web developer easily get information from the customer's
>    profile?
>    - If all the information in the profile is public, and it sure seems to
>    me that it is, why would you expect that everyone wants to publish their
>    emails, names, and address for all the world to see?
>    - Is there a service now that will allow me to add information to my
>    profile now in a user friendly manner which does not assuming that i know
>    how to write RDF?
>    - Is there a URL to my profile that shows my picture which i can
>    publish in my  emails?  The one below goes to a RDF document which is very
>    unfriendly to  non-geeks.
>
> PS:  I do like WebId and the logo much better than foaf+ssl which is
> totally too geeky for to ever catch on :)
>

Very nice, I won a prize! :)

What language did you program it in?


>
> Seth Russell
> WebId:http://foaf.me/seth
>
> Alpha testing: tagtalking.net
> Facebook ing: facebook.com/russell.seth
> Twitter ing: twitter.com/SethRussell
> Blogging: fastblogit.com/seth/
> Catalog selling: www.speaktomecatalog.com
> Google profile: google.com/profiles/russell.seth
>
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Story Henry <henry.story at bblfish.net>wrote:
>
>>
>> On 14 May 2010, at 18:57, Seth Russell wrote:
>>
>> >> FOAF is supported by google and there's at least one bridge to twitter
>> > http://semantictweet.com/
>> >
>> > Wow! I am truly impressed with how much information that provides.
>>  One
>> > big question:  if people use that information and write in their foaf
>> > profiles that they foaf:knows me as
>> http://semantictweet/SethRussell#me but
>> > i am accumulating information about myself in my own profile where i
>> > consider myself to be http://foaf.me/seth#me  won't we all get just a
>> little
>> > bit confused?
>>
>> That's a bit like the web is today. You have a Facebook profile, and
>> perhaps a
>> linkedin one, then other services on the web create a service to extract
>> the data
>> and they publish it somwhere else.  The difference is that most of your
>> friends will be linking to http://foaf.me/seth#me because that is the one
>> you give out on a business card, or append to your emails.
>>
>> I think of semantictweet as a demo of what twitter could be doing if they
>> wanted to. Indenti.ca produces its own foaf so there is no need for
>> semantictweet.
>>
>>
>> > Shouldn't you have some way in your tool to ask me not only
>> > who i am to twitter but where i consider my official profile to reside?
>>
>> As I said above, that is the one that you put in your emails.
>> Also when people link to it, they get to go to your parties. I think we'll
>> see how this evolves in a pragmatic way.
>>
>> >
>> > Is there, or can there be such a tool for facebook?  For Google?
>>
>> Yes, they would just need to follow the procedure indicated here
>>
>> http://esw.w3.org/Foaf%2Bssl/HOWTO#HOWTO_foaf.2Bssl_enable_your_Web_2.0_application
>>
>>
>> > How are
>> > all of these different foaf identities of me ever going to ever get
>> equated?
>>
>> You can link them in various ways. One way would be to
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/russell.seth#me> owl:sameAs googleseth:me .
>>
>> from one account to the other.
>> We can start looking into that as soon as we have enough apps so that the
>> problem becomes more practical. There are a number of solutions to this
>> problem.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> PS. Don't forget to send us a pointer to your app!
>>
>>
>> > Seth Russell
>> > Alpha testing: tagtalking.net
>> > Facebook ing: facebook.com/russell.seth
>> > Twitter ing: twitter.com/SethRussell
>> > Blogging: fastblogit.com/seth/
>> > Catalog selling: www.speaktomecatalog.com
>> > Google profile: google.com/profiles/russell.seth
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