[foaf-protocols] Fwd: openid4.me not working

[Kingsley Idehen]

  On 9/12/10 5:52 AM, Henry Story wrote:
> Seth,
>
> the spec states:
>
> [[
> The meaning of the WebID URI is a graph of relations that is fetched by the Verification Agent either by dereferencing the WebID URI and extracting RDF data from the resulting document, or by utilizing a cached version of the RDF data contained in the document or other data source that is up-to-date and trusted by the Verification Agent. The processing mechanism is further detailed in the sections titled Processing the WebID Profile
> ]]
>
> So the site you log into can cache the information from your profile. That should both make the response a lot faster and allow for connections if the WebID Profile is unavailable.
>
> ( OpenID4.me could have a button where the user can refresh the cache btw, but that would be more for when attribute exchange is implemented )
>
> The best solution would be to have a WebID for the browser itself. That would allow for WebID to work even if the whole internet were down and the only two machines that were running were yours and the one you are connecting to. I think this is possible with Opera, and Melvin mentioned that Peter Williams had tried it. I will try adding that Option to Clerezza for Opera users. That will make having multiples SANs really useful. A mobile, sometimes unavailable SAN, but always available one when connecting, and a long term reliable SAN always available.
>
> Henry
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Henry,

How does Opera Unite (Opera acting as a proxy to site they host for you) 
differ from just having your own Personal Data Space somewhere on the 
Web or even Internet (now that WebIDs don't even need to be HTTP URIs 
courtesy of Webfinger)?

HTTP servers can really run anywhere (nothing unique to Opera bar a 
little convenience relative to other browsers), sadly Web 2.0 has 
created a bizarre illusion that you can't do peer to peer on the Web 
since most Web 2.0 companies (courtesy of Software as a Service) cannot 
imagine a Web without their intermediary services etc..

Seth: You can have your own data space in a variety of setups. The WebID 
protocol in no way negates these possibilities. If you want to run your 
WebID compliant IdP on your desktop and be ready to invest the time in 
getting a publicly resolvable CNAME, you can do so via the likes of 
DynDNS etc..

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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	
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OpenLink Software
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