[foaf-protocols] [foaf-dev] OpenPals - FOAF-based open source social infrastructure

[Nikolay Krasilnkov]

Hello Kingsley,

Thank you for reply!

On 09/16/2010 01:51 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>    On 9/15/10 4:40 PM, Nikolay Krasilnkov wrote:
>> Hello FOAF-project team,
>>
>> My name is Nikolay Krasilnikov. I'm PhD student in Saint Petersburg
>> State  University of Information Technologies, Mechanics and Optics (SPb
>> SU IFMO) and software engineer in Sun Microsystems (Oracle Corporation).
>>
>> My friend Nikolay Vyahhi (he is PhD student in Saint Petersburg State
>> University (SPb SU)) and I are prototyping some kind of social network
>> infrastructure based on FOAF and OpenId.
>>
>> The main idea is to split social network to standardized back-end and
>> substitutable front-end.
>> Back-end is rather simple provider of social information based on FOAF
>> standard and OpenID authorization. It looks like this:
>> http://www.openpals.net/provider/http://nnnnnk.myopenid.com/ (slash at
>> the end does matter). Provider also supports some security settings.
>> Front-end is any software (UI) that can browse this FOAF network. In our
>> prototype it renders FOAF to some kind of usual social network page. For
>> example here is my page:
>> http://www.openpals.net/profile.html?id=http://nnnnnk.myopenid.com/ .
>> Actually we have two different front-ends — server-based that's located
>> on http://www.openpals.net and the one implemented as Firefox extension.
>> In the second one there are much more possibilities in integration of
>> different services.
>>
>> Description of idea with pictures:
>> http://www.openpals.net/howitworks.html
>>
>>    From the point of view of FOAF we have some simple FOAF parser, object
>> model and UI representation.
>> Our model is rather simple now, but we are working on it.
>>
>> Also we are not great experts in FOAF and RDF, so it would be great to
>> get some expert feedback.
>>
>
> Nice looking effort!
Thank you :)

>
> Wondering if you've been looking at the WebID project at all?
Nope :)

>
> Also, I tried to create a profile using my OpenID but it failed. I
> doubled checked with another OpenID site to ensure it wasn't me at
> fault, and that worked.
>
> My OpenID URL is:<http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen>  .
I guess that's a bug in openid4java library.
It can not find endpoints on your page.

I'll try to update it, and if it won't help, I file a bug.
Is it Ok to provide your OpenID in bug description?

>
>> We'd like to make our ideas live, organize a community and so on. But we
>> don't have much experience in this things. So we'd be very pleased if
>> you could give us some peaces of advice in this area too.
>>
>> Prototype:
>> http://www.openpals.net
>> Project:
>> http://kenai.com/projects/openpals
>
> My best piece of advice (for now) would be to incorporate WebID into
> your service once OpenID is working properly etc..

As I understand WebID is URI with FOAF.
Is http://www.openpals.net/provider/http://nnnnnk.myopenid.com/#NNK my 
WebID?

And is it possible to split WebID provider and FOAF provider?
Now it's possible to change our FOAF provider to other keeping id and 
data transparently for other users in the network.

Regards,
Nick.

>
> Kingsley
>> Best Regards,
>> Nick.
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